How To Vote at eHow
Saw this discussion in the forums and through it was interesting. DSSer Hancock posted this…
I write 10 articles in 2 hours Monday through Friday. I am writing 15-20 a day now. On a good day, I am through with everything in 5-6 hours (editing, submitting, and writing process).
DIZZZAM!!!
Ten articles in 2 hours? That’s like 12 minutes per article.
How is that possible? I’ve been doing this for two years and I’m still not up to that speed. And I don’t proofread or go back over my articles before sending them on. And I claim a bunch of the same title to speed things up. Jiminy.
That’s over $50/hour. Not too shabby. What the hell are you complaining about? That’s good money!
What the hell am I doing wrong?
How about sharing these tips with the rest of us?
Look, I made a poll!
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“TaxMan: you are forgetting that the links and research are all done ahead of time and don’t count toward the overall write time.”
Research, revision and links are all part of writing the article. So, in other words, he lied.
He’s probably the same guy who tells the new writers that he has all ’5”s for scores.
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I don’t understand why people pick niches. I just follow the money.
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Because he can make the same amount from wherever he wants. You can only set tile where you need to set tile.
Honestly, seeing someone less annoying get picked to pieces like this really puts the P1N debacle in stark relief. I would like to offer her a formal apology.
But she’s still annoying.
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“I was on job sites from the time I was 6 years old, and by the time I was 15 I was working full-time for the family business.”
Two thoughts- First, I thought it was illegal to work full time at that age. I fully remember getting my first job as a waitress at age 14- I had to fill out legal paperwork, get my parent’s permission, and was only allowed to work limited hours a week, certainly nothing like fulltime.
Secondly, I am sorry you weren’t able to go to high school or college because you have been working fulltime as a tile-setter for 15 years. I am impressed at how well you write, considering your lack of education.
I’ll skip over the other points made, because honestly, they just really sound exaggerated, and I’d hate to think that. It makes me think of Gordon Ramsay and his alleged ‘soccer’ achievemnents. Even bery successful people feel the need to exaggerate, apparently.
“There’s a hill of beans between baby sitting kids for your parents and growing up in a family business and helping to run a multi-million dollar company.”
I would really beg to differ, unless someone was actually trying to look down their nose. A person who started babysitting at 8, continued until they were in their 20s, had some kids and got a childcare license/business, is certainly as qualified in their area of expertise as a tile-layer. And, as a writer for DS, they make exactly the same amount of money per article. So I’d say yes, they are comparable, even though I have done neither. Now that I think about it, I also make the same per article… so that means what I do and what I write about is comparable as well.
I guess what I mean to say is that if we weren’t discussing $15 articles, maybe it would make more sense. Why would anyone so successful want to or need to write for DS? Once it’s to that level of exaggeration, it’s even hard to buy the ‘just pickin’ up some extra change’ kind of rationalization provided. Unless they were doing it not because they needed the money (or because they’d exaggerated their income, experience and net worth)m but because they just found it fun. The problem is that writing for DS isn’t actually fun.
So yeah, I’m feeling a little skeptical-ish-y about the whole thing. Also wondering… are there really THAT many DS titles about tile-setting? If so, I guess I picked the wrong niche.
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T.W.: It’s good thing you have your resume ready to roll. DMS zombies are in for a rude awakening. They may end up being cannibals by year’s end! Run for your life! LOL
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Ahh, but I never said *my* company was the multi-million dollar company
I said the family company. But grats on your reading comprehension 
Needless danger? Hardly
Freaks on the Internet who attack people over their resume are hardly threatening to me or my lifestyle. But it’s interesting you view yourself in such a light!
And for someone who “absolutely” does not care, you sure make an awful fuss! But I’m honored with your obsession, ma’am. It warms my heart to know that I’ve warranted your time and dedication on the Internet.
Personally, my residential flooring company usually grossed around 100k, netting me around 60k a year. But I only worked 6-8 months out of the year, and spent the rest of my time traveling. A hobby which, gratefully, I’m still able to pursue on a daily basis.
Thanks for playing, and I appreciate the song in my honor. /bow
On that note, I’m off to make me some more easy money at DMS. Cheers!
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Okay, it was funny with P1N but let’s stop getting on everyone’s ass over their resumes. It’s really not very ggood behaviour.
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Multimillions and now you’re writing for DMS…dude, you’re either a pathological liar, or deranged for posting so much personal info about yourself.
Why would you be “more than happy to provide [me] with contact points” from your resume? I’m a stranger on the internet, please have some discretion and do not put yourself in needless danger to “prove” a “point.” Plus I absolutely do not care, you are a stranger on the internet.
And no, you most certainly will not be recording me. Good night to you sir, or good morning, since you are probably halfway ’round the world on a mountain top in the Himalayas laying tile and aging backwards. Oy.
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My resume is 100 percent verifiable, Gina. Feel free to make some phone calls and verify my credentials in and around the Front Range of Colorado. I’d suggest starting with Florida Tile in Fort Collins and talking to Connie, or Tim over at Dal Tile in Loveland. But if you really want to go back, you can find the earliest days back in Missouri, where I grew up. I’m more than happy to provide you with contact points there as well.
I was on job sites from the time I was 6 years old, and by the time I was 15 I was working full-time for the family business. I grouted my first tile job by myself when I was 8 years old, in Springfield, Missouri at the Dal Tile showroom. By the time I was 17 I was the foreman for my dad’s branch of the family business, running multi-million dollar jobs like the detention center in Brighton, Colorado, the Poudre Valley Hospital in Fort Collins, or the Oppenheimer financial center in Denver. By the time I was 19 I was running 25 man crews as we did the tile and stone in Safeways, Wal Marts and King Soopers across the Front Range. By the time I was 20 I was running my own company and sub-contracting work for the family business as well as others, although I stuck to residential work rather than commercial.
The beauty of having a verifiable resume is that 100 percent of my contacts can be checked and every shred of it proven with facts. I do indeed have over 15 years of experience in the field as a contractor and installer, and a family name with over 750 million dollars of work behind it over the past 3 generations, nationwide.
There’s a hill of beans between baby sitting kids for your parents and growing up in a family business and helping to run a multi-million dollar company. Regardless of what you might think, my reputation is 100 percent warranted, 100 percent verifiable, and 100 percent justified. Go ahead…make the phone calls. I dare you
My first business loan was when I was 16 years old. I bought a hay truck, hired my friends, and went and hauled hay all summer in between helping on tile jobs. My little brother is 17 years old right now, and he has over 30 thousand dollars of his own cattle, all his own. He owns his own truck, 100 percent in the clear, without a single dime of help from my folks. He’s been team roping in the rodeo circuit since he was 7 years old in the Little Britches competitions. But I suppose you’ll tell him that his 10+ years of rodeo and 5+ years of working cattle and building up his assets and herd doesn’t amount to anything because “he’s only a teenager”. When he’s 30, and he’s been doing what he enjoys doing for 15+ years, I guess he’ll be “misleading” people just like me
My family is one of those who start work young, so that by the time we are my age (30) we have more work experience than most people have at 40. Consequently, it’s also why I’m debt free at 30 years of age…I’ve put my time in, worked the hours, racked up the experience, and I have the the resume and proof to back it up.
Gotta love the smurf song. Hope you have a good voice, because I’ll be recording
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Why is anyone still busting their butt for DMS? Grab some quick extra spending money and work on other freelance/self-employment opportunities. You’re wasting time, energy and money trying to crank out crap for DMS …. it’s time to crank it out to line your own pockets, not someone else’s.
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Why, why, why must DS writers beat each other up over how many articles they write per hour? It’s pointless. Everyone writes at their own pace. If someone claims to write faster than you, make like Sir Paul and Let it Be. The claim isn’t costing you anything. The claim might be true; it might not be. Who cares?
Since some people do care, I write two or three per hour. It depends on what titles I pull. It depends on what else might be going on around me. It always depends. Sometimes I write more. Sometimes I write less.
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…my 15+ years of experience as a ceramic tile and natural stone contractor…
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I’m 30 years old…
Look, when I was 14, I had to babysit my younger siblings and take care of them while my parents worked late 5 days a week. I was paid, and I had CPR certification. Do I call myself a Certified Professional Caregiver with over 20+ years of experience? No, because though it is semantically true, it is misleading. Similarly, I don’t think you should give yourself airs of being a “natural stone contractor” with 15+ years of experience just because you accompanied your dad to work once in a while and helped bring him lunch during breaks.
Seriously, someone hired a high school kid for professional tile laying? I don’t f-ing think so dude. Unless you mistyped and meant “stoned” contractor. Give me an f-ing break, but thanks for the laugh.
But I’m sure you are going to write a rebuttal and claim that you were indeed a professional stone tile contractor at 14, 15. OK then. La LA, la la la la (I’m singing the smurf song to myself.)
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discon:
I think it’s less the stars aligning and more just practical application. But thanks
I’m making the most out of the gift I’ve been given, or at least trying my damned hardest.
Taxman: When you have the research already in your head, the links are already done for you, the titles are already created, and all you have to do is blast out 400-500 words of How To for a 5th grade reading level…
Suffice to say, it’s absolutely possible. For some people. As for me, I’m far to distracted by Messenger, Skype, friends, funnies, coffee, birds, cats, whiskey, beer, wine and other sundries to ever actually want to sit and pound out 10 articles at a time
But I can see where it’s possible, if one were a fast enough typist and were able to generate McArticles that didn’t need revising. Mine do. Which is why I’ve never passed the 7 in an hour mark (which is RARE; it’s only happened to me twice. My average, as stated, is 3-4 per hour), because even as fast as Dragon Naturally Speaking allows me to be, I still have to go through and weed out repetitive word usage and double-check my punctuation.
That’s not to say the guy saying he can do 10 in an hour can’t. Maybe he’s a flawless writer. Could be. I’m not one to judge. I know my own numbers have been called into question in the past and from personal experience I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that sometimes the Doubting Thomases of the world are sometimes so set in their ways that they wouldn’t believe they were burning to death even when they were on fire.
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TaxMan: you are forgetting that the links and research are all done ahead of time and don’t count toward the overall write time.
So that leaves an extra 7 minutes to drink a glass of water and twitch.
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Typing 75 words a minute, non-stop, would put you right at 66 minutes for 5,000 words (10, 500-word articles). That means less than 6 minutes to research, revise and add links each article to reach the 2 hours mark.
Even at the bare minimum words of 4,000, that puts the time at 53 plus minutes leaving you with less than 7 minutes to add links, revise and research.
Even the fastest typists cannot maintain their top speed for that length of time. One itch, twitch or drink of water makes your tale of time basically impossible.
Just being logical.
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T.W., I can only drool at your lifestyle. I can see from your posts here that you’re a good writer. It seems the stars have all aligned in your favor to provide a living most people can only dream of. Congratulations!
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I’ve already put my money where my mouth is
Head on over to my site, check out the writing experiment from back in January/February. Then, feel free to look up my articles on e-how or wherever they are published. I use the same byline as I use to post comments here, and the vast majority of of articles I’ve written were trade-related based upon my 15+ years of experience as a ceramic tile and natural stone contractor. I also specifically show and tell the exact type of articles I was writing so people can clearly see the niches I was/am using to make the kind of money I make with Demand Studios.
As to whether or not you (or anyone) think the articles are crap…I could care less
I wrote, I got paid, I went home happy. I know for a fact they are McArticles, and I’m not out there trying to push them as anything else. Are they relevant? Depends on the person. Are they best things I’ve written? Hell no, lol. But you know what? They are fast, SUPER easy to write, because I don’t have to reference anything due to the fact I have enough experience in the field to rattle off the tip of my tongue exactly what is required for a simpleton to DIY. I was a third generation contractor and I’ve got 15+ years of experience in the field, and I spent 20 years growing up on a ranch, so when it comes to construction/DIY topics or ranch topics…I don’t have to think or reference, I simply write. In addition, I’ve been traveling throughout Europe for the past 10 years, including the past 2.5 based out of Sofia, Bulgaria, so travel writing is a cinch. Then, on top of that, I’ve spent the past 15 years as a video-game nerd, especially with MMORPGs, which means I’ve got enough experience there to not need references. BAM, I’ve got 4 niches to pull topics from without needing to cite sources.
I personally have plenty of time to post on forums and leave comments on other people’s websites because I make enough money to work part-time hours.
I do *not* work full-time at Demand Studios. As a rule I do between 350-500 dollars per month with them in between private clients. But when I use them, I stay profitable. The lowest I’ve ever made is 30 dollars per hour, while the highest I’ve made is 105 an hour. The average I make with them is 45-60.
If you have the right niches, it’s entirely doable.
In September I’m leaving for Cancun. I’m spending 2-3 years working my way down through Central and South America on a working holiday. I pay for my trips through content mills and part-time writing gigs. I’m 30 years old, debt free, and love my job. I work smarter, not harder, and utilize the tools of the industry in addition to my intelligence to make content mills work for me. Are my results conclusive? That depends on the individual. But if you have niches, can type fast or use voice recognition software to make your job easier, it’s certainly profitable. I have absolutely no problem making 45-60 dollars an hour “flipping burgers” for Demand Studios. Lets me live the lifestyle I like to lead
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betterbug, them’s fightin’ words yur sayin’ thar!
A long time ago on the DMS zombie forums, I put forth the same theory that there’s no way people could be consistently achieving the numbers they claimed and still be producing quality articles. I was ignored, as usual. But nobody was willing to put their work where their mouth was and prove me wrong.
I suspect you won’t get any takers here, either.
DMS isn’t a site where quality matters. People are there to grab the money and run with as little effort as possible, and DMS is apparently fine with that because they let it go on while they preach quality out of the other side of their face.
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I’d really like to see a list of the articles people have supposedly produced when they claim to have written anything more than 4 per hour. I really would, because I am going to guess I would think they were crap. Especially the ones where they said they have expertise and therefore don’t have to provide references. Every DS article I’ve read (especially the GGs) where there were no references were garbage with a lot of incorrect material. I really don’t know why DS allows certain people to not provide references. Their articles don’t read well and contain inaccuracies. If anyone would like to provide me with a list of the high-quality articles they are pumping out each hour, I’d be happy to critique them for you.
I notice that the people who claim to write so fast have very high rewrite rates. IIRC, whoever claimed to be writing 10 per hour said that out of every 10 they write they drop 2 of them for unreasonable rewrites? That right there lowers things to 8 actual articles per hour, if we are even to believe that. And what would that make their dropped article rate be? If they are only minor errors, why are so many being sent back for rewrite? My CEs have generally removed (or added, whether incorrectly or not)commas or the occasional typo fix without asking for rewrite. My guess would be that they have a high rewrite rate and drop rate because they aren’t writing acceptable articles to begin with. Adding in the rewrite time (and I don’t believe it’s a second or two to add an apostrophe), what does your per hour then drop to? If I write 2 articles in an hour, and they are accepted with no rewrites every time, then I am making $30 an hour. If 25% of those are returned for rewrite, I am not making $30 an hour, nor am I really writing 2 an hour. I have no need to lie and say that the hour included the time spend finding the title, finding a photo, and finding 2 .org or .edu references and a resource.
I am just not buying any of it. If I look for a recipe for lasagne (while I’m surfing for other things), go to the grocery store, buy all the ingredients for lasagne (while I’m already shopping), cut all the ingredients up the night before (while I’m watching TV), assemble them (while I’m listening to music), and then bake it for 45 minutes, did it really only take me 45 minutes to ‘make lasagne’? Hmmm.
I’d also like to know exactly what topics they are supposedly grabbing so many titles at a time for that is in their ‘niche’. If the titles are so plentiful they are raining down and they can write 20 a day, they should have no problem sharing what those topics were, while they are letting us read the articles that came from it. None of this ‘can’t share that info, people might snag a title or two’ when you’re claiming there’s that many to write.
Not to mention that these people also seem to have plenty of time to be in the forums essentially bragging about it- when do they have time to write? Usually they are either bragging or complaining about unfair ‘crazy’ rewrites, or how their scores got ‘dinged’. I’ve noticed that most of them admit to have very low scores in the 3s.
But, that couldn’t be from writing half-assed non-researched, poorly written articles, could it? And- they can’t ever seem to decide if they are so much more productive and better than all the other writers because of their mad-skills with typing speed or because they are using voice-recognition software. Really… does the software really speed up typing ‘put slot A into slot B’?
Please. Show me the articles. Not your numbers or figures or estimates or exaggerations. Show me the articles. I’d like to see the high quality in those articles, lol.
BTW, did I mention really liking this website?
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It’s an interesting topic.
My personal best is 7 articles in one hour through Demand Studios. That was using Dragon Naturally Speaking and writing on a topic I have 15+ years of experience in, so I do not have to pull websites, reference anything, or cite any sources. I did a content writing experiment back in January where I averaged 54 dollars an hour using Demand Studios in conjunction with a couple of other sources.
However, 7 articles in an hour, for me, even using Dragon Naturally Speaking, is extremely are. It’s only happened a few times. On average, using DNS, and writing in my main niche (where I don’t have to use references and can thus simply write without researching/citing) I put out 4 an hour.
Couple weeks back I started playing around with non-niche topics. Basically, just hitting the List and How To filters for 15 dollar articles and pulling the first 15 articles I see that look halfway interesting/easy to research. Out of those 15 I generally get 8-10 which actually prove writable. I give myself 1-2 minutes to Google for references, and if I can’t find anything, I unclaim the article and move to the next.
In any case, when I find ones that have an easily-referenced series of websites via Google, I’ve been putting out 2-3 an hour.
Finding topics takes no time. The most I’ve spent pulling articles is 15 minutes one time, but most of the time I’m writing niche articles which means I have my keywords already ready to go and I just plug them in, pick my 15 articles, and move on.
In any case…I don’t think 10 per hour is impossible. If you have a niche and you stick to List and How To articles, it’s totally feasible. However, I type 125 wpm and I have to admit…I’d be HARD PRESSED to write 10 in an hour typing by hand. Using Dragon I’ve been able to do 7, but I really don’t know if I could manage 10. If someone had a niche where they could pound out 10 articles on the same topic in an hour…more power to ‘em.
I personally have a 76% no-rewrite approval rating, and a 19% approved rewrite rating. I have absolutely no doubt that if I slowed down, I would have less rewrites, personally. But, it’s McWriting. I’m not willing to spend inordinate amounts of time on McArticles. I’m in there to make fast, easy money. If I get a rewrite request back and it’s a quick, 30-90 second fix…you betcha, I’ll do it. But if it’s a line-by-line edit…not a chance in hell. I’m not getting paid enough money to deal with line edits. You want to make me 25+ cents per word, I’ll deal with line edits, but for McArticles? I’m going to write the easiest, fastest articles I can, and whichever ones slip past the McEditors I’ll take a look at, but if they are unreasonable requests, nope.
I actually love Demand Studios, but their editing process is seriously flawed. So I work within the system as best I can.
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Holy shoulderchip, Jekhly
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“The thing that bugs me, though, both here and in the DS forums, is that when people tell how long it takes them to write their articles, they’re almost never counting all of the work. They say things like they write all their intros and headings the night before, do the research in advance, and look for titles while they are watching TV.”
Exactly. Even if you don’t count finding the title, the research, plugging in the links, typing the intro and keywords and assigning categories all adds to the overall write time. If all we had to do was write the body, then that ten-minutes-to-write statement would be right on. But we don’t so that number is skewed.
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“I might be getting the worst CEs because my approved no rewrite was the same as yours.”
Who is “yours?” Did you mean me? If so, I’m confused. I thought you said “My approval rating is 66% for articles going through the first time.”
Mine is 87% was the 66% a typo?
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Hi Patrick,
Yea, I could never figure out why so many people were getting massive amounts of rewrites, even when the new CEs cam on board every other month. My rewrites were not climbing except for getting some off the wall requests every once in awhile. I emailed a few people and turns out they were writing all their articles first and then submitting them all at once. I tested the theory out over a few days and sure enough rewrites on one of those days shot up.
If the CEs are dropping articles in “batches” of say 20 at a time, and you submit 10 articles in 15 minutes..chances are all 10 articles are queueing up to the same CE. Drop an article every 30 minutes and hundreds of other articles are between each one of yours, you will not run into that problem.
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hey ken,
great tip. i’ll write that on the big board. used to happen to me all the time back when i was writing a bunch.
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The part about getting the same CE is possible depending upon how you are submitting. If you submit all of you articles at the same time, then chances are you are getting the same CE for that batch. The remedy for that is to submit one article every 30 minutes. It mixes your articles in the batch. Just save everything as drafts and then go back and just hit the submit button throughout the day or evening.
Sorry to say, though I am not saying anybody is lying, I am saying that not all the time is being accounted for and if 66% is the approval rating, something is not being done all that right either. That’s not saying anything about the writing, just mistakes are happening.
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10 in TWO hours?? 10 How-To or Strategy articles in TWO hours? Like Jekhly, I find this difficult. Somewhere you’re not accounting for time. Myself, I can do 2 maybe 3 per hour. I am currently sitting at 88% no rewrites after 1904 articles.
Before I moved away from writing so much as DS, I did have a system somewhat similar.
Grab 10 titles
Put in key phrases and research into each one and save as drafts. That right there alone, is 30-45 minutes. Before actually writing any of the articles.
Next morning I would write and submit. If the titles were relatively simple, and the drafts were in place, yea 4 could be knocked out in an hour. But that didn’t happen on a regular basis. But that also does not include the time from the night before saving the drafts.
It would take roughly one hour just to submit a total of 10 articles all at once. Not writing, not researching..simply submitting. Even if you are writing How-tos correctly inside of 10 minutes, that still leaves only 20 minutes total to submit them. That ain’t happenin. Not on the DS dashboard.
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My all-time score for articles getting through the first time is 88%. Last month, it was 93%. But I’m a slow researcher, and I don’t know whether or not it evens out in the end. Maybe people who get a lot of rewrites, but who write more quickly in the first place, still come out ahead.
The thing that bugs me, though, both here and in the DS forums, is that when people tell how long it takes them to write their articles, they’re almost never counting all of the work. They say things like they write all their intros and headings the night before, do the research in advance, and look for titles while they are watching TV.
Then they say they “write” the articles in 10 minutes or whatever, but if they’ve already found the title, done the research, written the intro, and figured out the sections, there’s not much left to do.
I probably spend most of my article-writing time doing research, because I don’t have much expertise in the areas DS covers. The actual writing goes fast, once I know what I want to say. But it’s finding out what to say that takes time.
I don’t time myself, btw, because it just makes me feel pressured. I don’t like bosses with one eye looking over my shoulder and the other eye on the clock — even if that boss happens to be me. But I know that I am nowhere near the 15 minutes that many people claim. I just doubt that they are either — not if they actually counted everything that has to be done, including taking into account time spent writing articles that were abandoned, time lost to site glitches, time spent reading the stupid official announcements, and time spent shaking their fists at the sky after getting aggravating rewrite requests.
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Let me say this then. My rewrite requests in the past couple of weeks have been impossible. It is hard to explain it without making myself look stupid on this site. I got a rewrite on how to burn a CD and I have to write steps for every OS. The problem is this program is not on Windows 7 and this editor specifically want me to write about Windows 7. That’s impossible.
Many of the rewrites are not even rewrites. There are questions or telling me to don’t say this instead say this.
I might be getting the worst CEs because my approved no rewrite was the same as yours. I normally write 10 articles and 8 of them go through and I will always get 2 rewrites that are impossible that I abandon and rewrites that are extensive over a simple topic.
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“I get rewrites from CEs that want me to explain EVERYTHING. No one can be this stupid. ”
But see, that’s the point. Unfortunately you DO have to explain everything. Especially on a technical document.
For example, you may think it’s enough to say:
Navigate to this key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon and modify the value of “Shell” key from “VirusRemoval.vbs” to “Explorer.exe”
But actually have to explain how to open the registry, and how to navigate to HKEY_Local_Machine and then to all the subtrees.
You also have to explain how to modify the shell.
Because we are to assume that our readers ARE that stupid. And if you don’t take the time to do it on the first round, then the CE will send it back for you to do it the second time.
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Are you honestly saying I am getting rewrites because of my writing? Are you serious? I revise all of my articles after I write them. I proofread them all individually.
I never said anything about your writing. I said you may be rushing and that may be contributing to your rewrites. Rushing does not equal bad writing, it just makes it easier to overlook something.
And, for the record, my overall “approved no rewrite” is 87%.
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I don’t get rewrites all of the time. I have been getting them lately. My approval rating is 66% for articles going through the first time. I must be doing something right if my rating is that high.
Are you honestly saying I am getting rewrites because of my writing? Are you serious? I revise all of my articles after I write them. I proofread them all individually.
Did you see my thread called “Copy Writing at its Finest (Not!!!)?” Those are the rewrites I get. There are new CEs and CEs that are “gatekeeping.”
I get rewrites from CEs that want me to explain EVERYTHING. No one can be this stupid. Anyway,I know what I am doing. I have been getting rewrites from the same editor because they write the same comments every single time.
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Hancock, I don’t doubt your honesty. I do sort of the same thing in Word, but because my articles are typically on different topics, it makes no sense to keep multiple documents open and work on them simultaneously. It would just confuse me and lead to more rewrites, I’m sure.
I’m assuming you’re able to find many titles on similar topics so you can batch them together as you do? Given the crappiness of the title lists, I don’t see how this is consistently possible, unless you specialize in one of those niches (automotives) that always have tons of titles.
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Not calling anyone a liar….like I said, interesting discussion.
1) I type about 60+ WPM.
2) I don’t see how writing an article in a word processor and then cutting and pasting into the DS form is going to save any time at all. Sounds like that’s taking up MORE time. It’s not really needed, especially if you save and/or use Lazarus.
3) I spend about 2 minutes on my intro. I have a standard formula that I can plug in different subjects that makes it work.
4) Rewrites are pretty frequent, but that’s mostly for spelling and/or link errors. Those take about a minute to fix. Or if the CE and I disagree on the article. In the latter case, that’s a rewrite I ain’t gonna do.
Tops, I guess I could do about 4 an hour. More like 3.7.
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Hancock. I don’t think you are lying. However, I am going to disagree with you on this:
***Again, the rewrites are not because of my writing. CEs do not know how to edit technical articles. I am not the only person getting multiple rewrites.
I write technical articles and I rarely get rewrites on technical articles or anything else. It also takes me much longer than two hours to write ten $15 articles. If you’re getting a lot of rewrites it may be because you ARE rushing through on the front end and paying for it later.
You can say otherwise but the only way to really tell is to slow down and see what happens.
But I have noticed that most people who say they produce a lot in a short time are often the same people who report rewrites as a given. That is, they mention that they expect rewrites and that rewrites are a daily (or near daily) occurrence.
I generally get one or two rewrites a week, even when I submit every day. So I spend more time up front but almost none on rewrites.
I think it all evens out.
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5. I made an article template in Jarte to resemble DS and I do all of the key concepts, references etc. the night before.
Elaborating on this one. I make the article template and I type the key concepts in Jarte and I copy and paste it into the DS template. It saves lots of time. The submission time is 25-30 minutes instead of 1-2 hours before I made this method.
I am being accused of being a liar and I don’t appreciate that, at all. I made this method a year ago and I began to use it again with DS because DS takes too much time. We have to do too much shit. The method works. Before the method, it took me 5 hours to write 10 articles. Believe what you want. This method works for me and the person I taught.
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Hmm, I am not getting rewrites because I type too fast. I have a method I use.
1. I do type 75wpm.
2. I use Jarte Word Processor and I write 5 articles at a time. Jarte has tabs and I write all my articles and I don’t stop.
3. I submit the first 5 articles and write the other 5 and submit.
4. I write the introductions when I revise and submit my articles. The overview takes too long to write and I have more time to write them after I write the full article.
5. I made an article template in Jarte to resemble DS and I do all of the key concepts, references etc. the night before.
***I don’t have access to tips and I only write list and how-to’s.
***I have no reason to lie to any of you people. I can write 10 lists in 2 1/2 hours and I write how-to’s in 2 hours.
***Again, the rewrites are not because of my writing. CEs do not know how to edit technical articles. I am not the only person getting multiple rewrites.
***I know what I am doing. It takes me 10 minute to write a how-to. 15 minutes to write a list.
***Just because you can’t do it doesn’t mean it is impossible. I already taught someone how to finish faster and she doesn’t regret it one bit. The girl I helped took 1 hour to write 1 article. She did about 5 a day. Now she is writing 10 in 3 hours because of my method.
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The only way that this person is being honest is if they write the 30 word Tips articles, and those only pay $3 each. You have to write over 30 a day to make $100.
There is no way in hell that they write that many How-to articles in two hours. It just isn’t possible.
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Isn’t he/she the one that was getting a lot of rewrites? Maybe he/she should slowed down a bit so that extensive rewrites would not be an issue. Just a thought.
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